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Track Folders

Big mixes require good organization, it would be great to be able to have track folders (for example-for your 32 tracks of drums!)

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Submitted by scottedog 4 years ago

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  1. kr0x Merged

    Many times I have multiple mics for 1 source (eg. 3 different mic on a guitar cab). It would be great to have a group track type that would allow you to group these tracks together under 1 track. Kind of like busing to an Aux track now, but a bit cleaner.

    4 years ago
    1. Like the VCA tracks in HD?

      4 years ago
    2. No exactly. Basically I'm thinking of this more like an organization enhancement. A group track type would be more like an Aux, but it would contain a number of sub-tracks with audio regions. In the edit window, it would have an expansion arrow that would expand the track to all of it's sub-tracks...kind of like the playlist view now, but all sub-tracks would play at the same time. All editing of regions in this view would happen like editing in a group does now. In the mix view, you would be able to expand the group track to see it's sub-tracks, and adjust their individual levels (and pan settings for stereo tracks). There would be a smaller subset of insert/sends for the sub-channels to allow you to tweak the individual sources if necessary.

      I'm constantly busing multiple mic tracks to an Aux track, and hiding/unhiding the audio tracks to make adjustments, both in the edit and mix windows. Would be nice to have a way to group things together so I have one place to go to work on that one instrument.

      4 years ago
    3. Maybe this could be combined with the other suggestion of Track Folders?

      4 years ago
  2. Claus Merged

    one competitor of you has folder tracks, useful for basic editing over many tracks at once and leaving out tracks i don´t want to edit. I know it works with groups but inside a folder (or better, let it look like the universe window!!!) i don´t need to see it...

    4 years ago
  3. tez1 Merged

    Hello,

    There is one specific feature I feel is lacking in Pro Tools LE 8 which is the possibility to have a "master" track (computer technology term for Master and Slave) be it for audio or instrument tracks which would allow one to add "slave" tracks to said "master" track.

    To illustrate this :

    - Master Drum Track

    - - Snare

    = = = Batter mic

    = = = Bottom mic

    - - Cymbals & Hihat

    = = = Overhead Left

    = = = Overhead Right

    = = = Hihat

    = = = Ride

    - - Toms

    = = = Tom 1

    = = = Tom 2

    = = = Floor Tom 1

    = = = Floor Tom 2

    etc...

    This would essentially be a collapsible folder system which allows you to clean up your edit & mix.

    I'll try and illustrate this visually when I have a moment during the week.

    What do you think?

    4 years ago
    1. This is such a awesome idea I sharted my pants when I read it !!!

      We all need this so bad, those who think they don't would realize they do one day, so it is a perfect idea. Plus it would be possible to not do that to a track too, so it would be fine for those that don't utilize it.

      Again, man, GREAT idea. FINALLY a way for us to clean up our mix/edit windows under large sessions.

      4 years ago
    2. Ableton has this feature and it works great. +1

      4 years ago
    3. I'm gonna bump this for the sake of showing to more people.

      3 years ago
  4. Will need some kind of indicator on the folder (when tracks inside are not visible) to show show many tracks are active/inactive soloed/muted, different track types etc

    4 years ago
  5. amiel7777 Merged

    Add Track Folder to be able to hide and group tracks to that folder

    3 years ago
    1. How would this be different than using groups or advanced location markers?

      3 years ago
    2. Hi Craig, is better because u can hide many tracks there to have more real state screen .

      also u can solo and mute all the tracks contained on that folder.

      and advance location markers are cool but if you want to have an overall view off the sesion that is more organized, track folders are better.

      3 years ago
  6. This might be a good one to implement.

    3 years ago
  7. Sky

    Something like SMART Folders in the track list. Move a track into a folder and it assumes the properties defined for that folder, e.g. joins a group, color change, hide, inactive, width narrow or wide on a per-track basis. Tracks outside any folder would behave normally to support legacy sessions.

    3 years ago
  8. Great idea. Been longing for Pro Tools to mimic folders in Photoshop in this (organisational) regard. The layers in photoshop can easily be collapsed and revealed, so you can keep track of what's available, but rid of the visual noise when you don't need to see it.

    3 years ago
  9. Just give me a basic hierarchical folder structure and I will be happy. A folder track can be muted, soloed, and put into record (all tracks in folder are thrown into record mode). Editing of a folder track contents would be great also, but is secondary. I just need better ways to organize massive track counts! WOuld make doing stems much easier also.

    2 years ago
  10. I compose for film. It's already frustrating enough that Pro Tools can't really handle lots of VIs. VE Pro *kind of* solves that problem, though it's a bit cumbersome. But the fact that there isn't even a basic folder model in PT to make it easy to organize tracks (though competitors like Cubase and Live have them) just makes it that much more annoying. Come on, Avid. Move into the 21st century already!

    2 years ago
  11. This is such a big workflow problem that I almost switched to Logic Pro X because of its Track Stack feature. It allowed me to condense 150 tracks into about 12 collapsable master tracks, all instantly accessible. Click a disclosure triangle and everything inside opens up.

    Imagine how this would revolutionize an audio post workflow, given sessions with hundreds of tracks.

    No more endless scrolling to try to find the track you're looking for. No more cumbersome memory locations for showing and hiding tracks, and having to remember to add any new tracks to the show/hide group manually.

    Please, Avid, this is major.

    10 months ago
  12. Of course it's a good idea.

    But Avid doesn't listen to his customers.

    We ask for this kind of features since many many years but we haven't seen nothing appends

    10 months ago
  13. I am almost ready to switch to Logic as well for this feature. My PT mixes are sooo cluttered.

    I commonly have several tracks for bass, (all bussed to an aux), several tracks for lead vocs, (bussed), several tracks for BG vocs, several for guitar, and of course a ton of drum tracks, all of these groups bussed to their own aux, and I'd just like to be able to fold them down to one track - maybe have the mute. solo, and volume for the aux channel available when folded.

    But please keep this one simple - just give me a way to group tracks together and fold/unfold them - this is mostly a graphic display issue - don't get fancy and try to automatically create busses when creating such a group - let me do that manually.

    9 months ago
  14. This would be so helpful for a post mix where its easy to have 100+ tracks of dialog split out or FX.To Shrink them and be able to see some sort of visual overview of the interior clips would be awesome. I'm planning to experiment with Logic's implementation of this feature.

    9 months ago
  15. As usual: Cubase has it, Ableton LIve has it. It's obvious, easy to implement, and we have to wait for another decade. :-(

    9 months ago
  16. Grouping tracks is OK, but visually it doesn't solve any problems for me.

    Our mixes will never get simpler.

    Please implement this feature already.

    I hate missing Nuendo workflow.

    8 months ago
  17. elvenminstrel Merged

    To help manage large sessions, it would be nice to have a way to collect a group of tracks into a single unit, like a folder, that takes up the width of one track when collapsed, and can be expanded when needed. Applied to Mix, Edit, or both. Logic's track folders are an example. Give it mute and solo buttons. A fader that trimmed the levels of the tracks in the folder wouldn't hurt.

    5 months ago
    1. This is a much needed feature that has proven itself incredibly useful in other daws such as nuendo and cubase

      5 months ago
  18. Hi, totally agree with Folder Tracks. This is not only useful for drums but also for any instrumentation that might be grouped. Region Groups is a nice feature but doesn't give you the same functionality as it is not saving the space for the tracks. I also would like to folder even folders tracks. This is also a good feature for doing Post Production / Sound Design etc..

    When I record Guitare, I do take my Gits DI signal into a little labs DI distributor.

    From there this goes straight DI into Pro Tools, then DI into digital FX Processor where I take the FX stereo signal and another DI that goes into an Amp which I mixed up with three Mics ( two straight on the Amp and one Room )

    So I literally end up for one guitare line with 6 recorded signals so I have the biggest choice from any of it. If these 6 tracks would be foldered it would make a lot of sense.

    14 days ago